mabell's Blog

So in actually Tyson is trying to do what the Unions demanded? Go figure.
Unions = Bad things. I wonder if other unions will demand and bend over backwards for Christians in the workplace? Me thinks not..

One of the things Unions have brought to the country is the increase in the cost of all goods and service purchased within our country.
It's wonderful paying 30% to 40% more more something retail because of the unions. Wouldn't you agree? (Sarcasm off)
Not to mention all the strong arm tactics the members use to enforce thier code and stiffle freedom of choice for all Americans.

Glad you wanted to discuss this.

Your first statement is a gross generalization and one that is unfounded. Union membership has been on a sharp decline for quite a while now, yet the costs of all goods and services have steadily increased. Doesn't add up does it?

Do you realize how few retail products are American made, let alone union made? Once again your statement doesn't add up.

I will admit that I don't always agree with the international and national leadership of unions, but I support the locals in what they have to deal with.

Place the blame where it belongs. Greedy corporations and our corporate owned government are to blame for how our economy is, not union workers.

If you want a list of what unions have done for this country then I'll list them, or you can google them up.

Could you explain this to me, the countries that have the highest standards of living also have the highest percentage of union workers. Just a coincidence?

The only thing that a union ever did for me was to raise my standard of living.

I find union employee's are the first to hire non union worker's.

The head of the carpenter union here in KC buit a new house when he retired(his son now is the head), not a union employee to be found.
When he sat in my sister's back yard at a BBQ she hosted. He got pissed & left. I had to explain to him that he was nothing but a hypocrite. He made a large sum of money over the years as a union manager, yet when he builds his own home. The union companies charge way too much..

One way or the other, Tyson is being a good employer, they worked with the union demands.

Unions are a protection racket for the Dumb, Lame and Lazy. Simple as that.

There are tons of nonunion construction, landscaping, carpentry workers out there that not only DO NOT have illegal immigrant workers, but are in fact born and bread American workers. I cant speak FOR them but I feel they would resent your accusation that nonunion means illegal.

As far as Unions go.. I still cant believe that the UAW pays 20hr to someone to stand there and screw a piece onto a part as it heads down an assembly line.... dont you think that is a bit excessive?... If they wanted more pay.. they should have taken classes, like the rest of us to learn a skilled postition.. by that I mean.. they should have taken steps to earn it...

JohnKJR - I have to agree with Heathen first; then I'll agree with you.
Unions CLEARLY had a valid pupose in this country. I won't go into the historical aspects, but I truly believe they served the American worker well.
Beginning a few decades ago, unions had seen their purpose come and go. Today, while not adding to costs that much, in the 60's and 70's they did. Then, somewhere along the line they stiffled managements ability to meet a changing global ecomony.
Three examples of US unionized industries that have been crushed by foreign competition:
1) Autos
2) Steel
3) Mining

I would take exception to the calling me dumb, lazy and lame. I worked a UNION Steel mill job for 35 years and came out with my sanity and both legs and a strong mind. I lost my job to cheap, subsidized foreign steel and if we don't wake up soon in this country we'll all be asking "Master; what do you want me to do next only we'll be saying it in Spanish or Chinese.

Changing the subject from the union confict, for a minute.
What I find unbelievable about my original post is: "the company has 3 Christian Chaplains and prayer rooms for both Christians and Muslims". I have never heard of a company/corporation that provided "prayer rooms" or "Christian Chaplains" for their employees, which clearly omits people of the Jewish Faith. If and it's a big IF, this is true it must be a happening, since they started employing Muslims, who clearly are the ones dictating to employers. I believe that's exactly what's happened in this case, maybe they threatened the union and the union, in turn blackmailed Tyson.
BTW, I think unions can be corrupt. A good example of that was when they "ran" Las Vegas. It was as bad as when the Mafia was in charge.

Thanks, Mabell.
My problem with their response to you is that it contradicts their first release. In that release, they said there were 1200 people employed in the plant, 700 of whom are Somali muslims. Also, one of the Tyson employees said he had helped build the muslim prayer room but said nothing about a chapel or chaplain for Christians. I guess any Jews, Hindus, or other religions are just out of luck

Whoever responded to you must not have read their own news story. I would seriously doubt a full time minister is available and on salary at the plant. Their Employee Assistance program undoubtedly provides for religious counseling, but on premises? I sincerely doubt it.

Once again, and I will say this 1000 times if I have to---why are so many foreigners being hired when so many Americans are looking for work? Why have a Somali muslim relocation effort when we have Americans ready, willing and able to do the jobs they so liberally hand out to foreigners who hate America?